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David Faux’s Historical Hypothesis: Uldin = Odin

Historical Figure Uldin

Active Period: 376-408 A.D.

  • Leader of the Huns
  • Real person documented in Roman historical records
  • Suddenly disappeared from classical writers’ records after 408 A.D.

Records in Norse Sagas

According to Snorri Sturluson’s records:

1. Original Homeland

  • The Asir (Aesir) people resided beyond the Don River
  • Principal settlement: City near the Caucasus Mountains
  • Present-day Azerbaijan region
    • Azeri = Phonetically nearly identical to Aesir

2. Great Migration Northward (Early 5th Century)

Family Structure:

  • Odin’s two brothers remained in the Caucasus region with some of their people
  • Odin led the majority of his people northward

Migration Route:

Azerbaijan/Caucasus Mountains
        ↓
    Don River Region
        ↓
   Ostrogothic Territory
        ↓
Lake Malar, Sweden
Gamla Uppsala

3. Settlement in Sweden

Negotiation and Settlement:

  • Negotiated with Gilfyr, then king of the Sveres
  • Acquired lands around Gamla Uppsala
  • Given the Huns’ reputation for extreme violence, it was likely an offer of power-sharing that Gilfyr could not refuse

Territorial Expansion:

  • Sent his sons to other regions
  • Occupied Oslofjord in Norway, among others

Archaeological Evidence

Three Burial Mounds at Gamla Uppsala:

  • Attributed to 5th-century Swedish kings
  • Scythian burial practices:
    • Cremation burials
    • Wealth of grave goods
    • 20-foot (approximately 6 meters) high mounds
  • Identical to burial practices in Altai region from before the birth of Christ

Composition of Odin’s People

Composite Ethnic Group:

  1. Sarmatians
  2. Huns (Hunnish)
  3. Germanic peoples

Characteristics:

  • Mixture of Scythian-Hun and Germanic peoples
  • German language used as lingua franca of the time
  • Fusion of Central Asian nomadic tradition + Germanic culture

Odin in Norse Mythology

Mythological Status

  • Supreme god (Allfather)
  • God of war, wisdom, magic, poetry, and death
  • Ruler of Asgard
  • Master of Valhalla

Connection Between Myth and History

Why did a historical figure become a god?

  1. Charisma as a powerful military leader
  2. Central Asian shamanistic tradition (Tengri worship)
  3. Introduction of new culture/technology to Germanic peoples
  4. Deification as dynasty founder

Similar Cases:

  • Deification of Romulus in Rome
  • Deification of Egyptian Pharaohs
  • Chinese emperors’ title as “Son of Heaven” (天子)

Summary of Evidence for the Hypothesis

1. Chronological Correspondence

  • Uldin: Disappeared from records in 408 A.D.
  • Gamla Uppsala mounds: Built in early 5th century
  • Migration period matches precisely

2. Geographical Correspondence

  • Sagas: Beyond Don River, Caucasus region
  • History: Huns ruled precisely that region
  • Azerbaijan (Azeri) = Aesir

3. Cultural Evidence

  • Scythian burial practices
  • Transmission of horse culture
  • Shamanistic elements

4. Genetic Evidence

  • Scandinavian R1a, Q, K haplogroups
  • Direct connection to Altai-Kyrgyz
  • Influx before Viking Age (793 A.D.)

Conclusion

David Faux’s Revolutionary Claim:

The historical figure Uldin was the prototype for Odin in Norse mythology, and in the early 5th century, he led a Scythian-Hun group from Central Asia to settle in Scandinavia, becoming the founder of the Swedish royal dynasty.

This is supported by multifaceted evidence including DNA evidence, archaeological excavations, Icelandic sagas, and correspondence in burial customs.

Key Point: The mythological god Odin was most likely actually a powerful Hun leader from Central Asia.

(Dr. David K. Faux) https://oratio.space/post/97

  • 조시 함혜중 Haejung🥇OPM
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    18 days ago

    The Relationship Between Attila and Uldin

    Time Difference and Dynastic Succession

    Uldin

    Reign: Approximately 400-408/410 A.D.

    • First undisputed Hun king to appear in historical records
    • 400: Ruled Muntenia region of Romania
    • 400: Defeated Ostrogoth Gainas and sent his head to Constantinople
    • 405-406: Allied with Stilicho, defeated Radagaisus
    • 408: Plundered Thrace, fought with Rome
    • Suddenly disappeared from records after 408-410

    Succession Order

    Uldin → Charaton → Rugila (Ruga) → Attila & Bleda

    1. Charaton: Uldin’s successor

      • Ruled from around 410
      • Young Aetius stayed at the Hunnic court during this period

    2. Rugila (Ruga): Approximately 430-433

      • Unified Hun tribes
      • Made treaty with Eastern Roman Emperor
      • Died in 433

    3. Attila & Bleda: 433-445 joint rule

      • Nephews of Rugila Wikipedia
      • Began joint rule from 433
      • 445: Bleda died (possibly killed by Attila)
      • 445-453: Attila ruled alone

    Blood Relationship

    No Direct Connection

    Attila and Bleda succeeded Rugila as his nephews in 435 Wikipedia . However, there is no clear blood relationship between Uldin and Attila documented in historical records.

    Time Gap

    • Uldin: Disappeared after 408
    • Attila’s birth: Approximately 406
    • Attila began ruling: 433
    • Approximately 25-year gap

    Controversial Claims

    Some Genealogical Claims

    One genealogical source mentions possible children of Uldin:

    • Bendekuz - Hun prince
    • Mandiuch - Supposed son of Uldin
    • Uldes - 54th King of the Huns

    However, these connections are historically uncertain and debated among scholars.

    David Faux’s Hypothesis

    David Faux presents various evidence that some Goths, accompanied by Scythians, Huns, etc., returned to Scandinavia in the 5th century. In this view, Odin, who led this group in Norse legend, may even be a corruption of Uldin Fabpedigree .

    Connection Through Aetius

    Roman General Flavius Aetius

    Around 410, young Aetius was sent to Uldin’s court, where he remained with the Huns throughout much of the reign of Charaton, Uldin’s successor Mr. Dowling.com Wikipedia .

    • Aetius became close to Uldin
    • Later became the supreme general of the Western Roman Empire
    • Defeated Attila at the Battle of the Catalaunian Plains in 451

    Conclusion

    Uldin and Attila were not in a direct father-son relationship.

    Summary of Relationship:

    1. Dynastic connection: Uldin → Charaton → Rugila → Attila (approximately 2-3 generations apart)
    2. Blood relationship: No clear records
    3. Time gap: Approximately 25-30 years
    4. Possibility: Uldin could be Attila’s great-grandfather or distant relative, but it’s uncertain

    Uldin was a pioneer who laid the early foundation of the Hun Empire, and Attila was the successor who brought that empire to its zenith. Rather than being a direct descendant of Uldin, Attila is more accurately viewed as the institutional and political successor of the Hun dynasty that Uldin began.